communication's strategy, let's hope it's not a strategy, but it's a tactic that somebody's employed, and said, look, we don't go around trying to say to reporters, if you, in an honest way, present something we don't like, that, you know, you're going to regret this. and just -- it's mickey mouse. >> how do you think this is all going to end up, real quick? >> that's the question. that's exactly the right question. and hopefully they fix it. they should do something. there is an irrationality to this. just pull back for a second. you've got leon panetta, i guess he's still secretary of defense, isn't he? >> no, chuck hagel is. >> oh, hagel's been sworn in, okay. panetta, the essence of the democratic party, saying, these cuts are going to be a catastrophe. you've got, on the political right, somebody like bill kristol, editor of the we"weekl standard" saying exactly the same thing, that this is a danger to national security.